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12/6/2005 4:35 PM
alan	Re: I agree... great idea on the tone pot! I have got the wiring mod done and it is working, it definate sounds alot louder, punchier and less distorted, didnt have time to play with it. maybe i had the original wired wrong thanks

12/7/2005 8:51 AM
anonymous	(Unless I misinterpret what you are trying to say) you can not boost frequencies with a passive tone control such as found in the 5E3 design. You can only roll off what the amp provides.

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12/7/2005 8:58 AM
Bruce /Mission Amps	You can bypass the volume control with more upper mids and highs for more "treble" or you can send highs and upper mids to ground for less "treble", but you can not roll any bass off or reduce much of the very low mids. Which by the way, still sound fantastic for a single tone control!! Bruce

12/7/2005 12:40 PM
Steve A.	Bruce said: Which by the way, still sound fantastic for a single tone control!! Yup, it sure does a lot of work for a single knob! I think of the "top half" of the 5E3 tone control as being a variable bright boost across the volume control, while the "bottom half" is a more typical treble cut tone control (as on a guitar). But there is a certain synergy between the two halves, so that the whole is more than the sum of the parts. Just wondering if you have checked out the single tone control on the Trace Elliot Velocette (which Gibson also marketed as their Goldtone GA-15)- it uses a dual-ganged 250k pot, which is wired up to a typical BF tone stack in place of the treble and midrange controls (the bass control is replaced by a fixed resistor). Hmmm... does anybody know if that pot would be linear or audio taper? Steve Ahola

12/7/2005 12:40 PM

Steve A.

Bruce said:

Which by the way, still sound fantastic for a single tone control!!

Yup, it sure does a lot of work for a single knob! I think of the "top half" of the 5E3 tone control as being a variable bright boost across the volume control, while the "bottom half" is a more typical treble cut tone control (as on a guitar). But there is a certain synergy between the two halves, so that the whole is more than the sum of the parts.

Just wondering if you have checked out the single tone control on the Trace Elliot Velocette (which Gibson also marketed as their Goldtone GA-15)- it uses a dual-ganged 250k pot, which is wired up to a typical BF tone stack in place of the treble and midrange controls (the bass control is replaced by a fixed resistor). Hmmm... does anybody know if that pot would be linear or audio taper?

Steve Ahola

12/7/2005 4:21 PM
Bruce /Mission Amps	Yup, I have used that circuit too and it works well but a bit more edgy/Voxy smashed sounding. I think Chris W told me he has used a similar circuit in a tone quest too. Bruce

12/10/2005 9:37 AM
Bear	Is that Trace/Gibson circuit behind a cathode follower? Don't have a scheme. Bear

12/10/2005 12:44 PM
Bruce /Mission Amps	No, RC plate coupled. Bruce

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