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Which JCM800-2204 head or 4010 combo?


 
10/23/2000 2:02 AM
Lee M.
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Which JCM800-2204 head or 4010 combo?
I'd like to get a Marshall, don't need one, therefore won't spend too much. I think this model fits the bill and have read fairly good things about them. Do these models have "the Marshall sound" (given the right speaker of course)? Any reason to steer clear of them?  
 
Thanks.  
 
Lee
 
10/23/2000 5:57 AM
Glen H.
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Lee,  
 
The 4010 is essentially an inverted 2204 master volume Marshall. Controls are preamp / master / treble / middle / bass / presence. Inputs = high sensitivity and low senstitivity.  
I love this model because of its size and 50W output. They're great for club gigs, jamming, and putting around with at home.  
 
The best sounding one I have tried had EL34's and a 65 Watt (G12-65?) Celestion speaker. I used a TS-9 to kick the preamp a little for solos.  
 
I currently own a 4104 which again is the same amp as the 2204/4010, but has 2x12" speakers. This is a fairly heavy amp due to the larger size, but is still a lot easier to pack than my 2204 head & cabinet.  
 
As to providing the "Marshall" sound, these amps will do it, but lack the fundamental of the 4x12 configuration. The amp is "snappy" in comparison, and has accentuated mids & highs, so I roll the treble back a little more. Does the amp sound like a "Bluesbreaker" - no, but you can dial in nice warm distortion. The gain is not over the top shred-style distortion, but very bluesy to crunchy, depending on which guitar you use.  
 
Marshall JCM800 amps were generally very well built, and I like them very much. The 4010 can only go up in price as collectors and players alike value them for their all-tube cicuitry (no diode distortion here!), size, and tone.;)  
 
Glen H.
 
 
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10/23/2000 3:04 PM
Liam
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Lee,  
 
I totally agree with Glen about all this. I'd add that if you play a lot of crunchy rhythm guitar the 4104 is absolutely killer, possibly more than a 2204 and 4 x 12.  
 
Any of these models are an ideal first Marshall, but a 4 x 12 cab is a lot of the traditional marshall sound.  
 
Liam
 
10/23/2000 5:25 PM
flosopher
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JCM 800 4010 on Ebay
There was a 50 watt JCM 800 combo on Ebay yesterday; it was described as having reverb, but from the photo it appeared to be the non-reverb 4010. Might be worth checking out if that's what you're after.
 
10/24/2000 2:57 AM
Lee M.
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Re: Which JCM800-2204 head or 4010 combo?
Hi Glen,  
 
I was just the high bidder on a 4010 with EL34s and the G12-65 speaker. I'm kind of surprised since I bid with over 4 minutes to go and the winning bid was $12 less than one went for last week and $16 less than the bid on another one with 3 days left. It will be my first Marshall so I'm looking forward to it. At least I know I can unload it without a loss when/if I get tired of it.  
 
Lee
 
10/24/2000 5:13 AM
Glen H.
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Congratulations!
Lee,  
 
Let me know when you want to sell it (hahaha).  
Really, you should have a nice amp there. The G12-65 is a decent speaker, and it has those EL34's...  
 
Enjoy.:)  
 
Regards,  
Glen H.
 
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