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previous: daddydg Thanks for the explanation, Enzo. -- 1099187386 View Thread

Re: Thanks and English debate.

10/31/2004 12:56 PM
Re: Thanks and English debate.
Well, it does mean the same as "composed of" but that is the point. To say something is "comprised of" other things is to say that it is "composed of of" those things. SO one would say the family comprises mom, dad, and the kid or the family is composed of mom, dad, and the kid. Not comprised of.  
This is the same offense as saying "ATM machine." SInce ATM already means AT Machine, ATM machine means "AT machine machine."  
ANother example is "whence." Many people say "from whence," but since whence means "from where," the construction is really saying, "from from where." Use either whence or from where, but not from whence.  
"3AM in the morning," is another example though it is just usage and not vocablary that is challenged there.  
In a larger sense I think it is the same sort of offense as the double negative. We add the uneccesary word to emphasize our point or make it clear because the right word alone does not make us confident. "Ain't not" is stronger than plain old "ain't."  
Yes, the times they are a changin. If we say something wrong long enough it becomes right. And I will admit my own guilt. I am personally fighting for the extinction of the semi-colon. I never use them and always use a plain old comma where they belong. I feel there is no less clarity, so there. it seems that split infinitives are now OK, and that is fine with me. Captain Kirk is free to tell us to boldly go where no man has gone before.  
Unfortunately, at least in this area, a construction I call the "them-R" is widely used. It grates on me every time I hear something like, "Them are good." I recall some years back a Japanese trade minister of some sort accused the American work force of being ignorant. Oh what a noise we made. The local TV station got the local UAW president - the union local PRESIDENT - on camera to comment. (We have several GM car plants in town - major employer) He said, "Them people shoudn't be allowed to say them things." I swear to God I saw it with my own eyes. My thought was well you just made their case, moron. I hear them-R all around me.

anonymous What cheek, Enzo! English lessons f... -- 10/31/2004 2:44 PM
jeremy heheh you said "them are good.":D -- 11/1/2004 11:29 AM