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Ebay is really starting to SUCK!

11/15/2005 6:49 AM
Steve the hothead	Ebay is really starting to SUCK! Long ranting... Well lets see where do I start? at the last three auctions I've won, I just won two electric guitars within two days, this was a month ago, both vintage Kramer guitars from two different Ebayers. On one auction the person selling states the guitar is in good condition and just needs to be setup. Yeah Right, BS... I get the guitar and the body is cracked in two places with about a million chips and dents and the Floyd Rose trem is chewed up and the neck is warped, but the auction says all sales final and NO returns. I Got screwed on that one, Then I get another Kramer vintage guitar and get it a a good sale price...So I thought, the seller charges me $45.00 to ship the guitar thru UPS ground and I ask in an email that he please pack this guitar very careful and pack the extras so they don't bounce around in the guitar case. He emails me back once and states everything will be packed up extra well and not to worry. Well I pay immediately thru paypal and the seller does not ever email me back but ships the guitar thru DHL instead, I get the guitar left out in the wide open at my doorstep while I was home and the DHL driver never rang my doorbell so the guitar sits outside in the heat for who knows how long? When I open my front door to my suprise there sits a guitar case not boxed but one big tyewrap to keep the case closed. I'm pissed as I open the case and the guitar is all wet from condensation, plus the trem arm and wrench have been bouncing around the case nicking the guitar finish. The case was scuffed from delivery. I call DHL and they can't tell me shit because there system is slow at updating the cost of shipping. I then Email the guy that sent the guitar about not boxing it like I asked and he sends back a crappy email saying that sending in just a tolexed guitar case is OK and he is justified the way he sent this. BS... I wait a week and call DHL back and find the sender shipped the guitar thru his place he works at paying a total of $6.40 to ship and the biz paid for this as he snuck it past their system without them knowing he charged the shipping to them. I email this guy about this and he says he is still justified in charging me the $45.00 for shipping and states case closed. Well I got into a pissing email match with him and told him that I will report him to Ebay and to his place he works if he doesn't at least give me a partial shipping refund, well to say the least it takes numerous threats to finally get him to send $19.00 back to me after major threats of turning him in. He stills sends an email back with total arrogance of his actions. I won't even go into the third Ebay auction as I ordered some parts from a internet guitar parts biz that's only 10 miles from my home, pay immediately thru PP and get an email that the parts are in stock and they will email me when sent out. and two weeks later, no parts and no response to any of my 6 emails I sent on where the parts are, or if they were even shipped or what! WTF...Is this a bad month or what??? My rant for the morning. Steve THH

11/15/2005 6:49 AM

Steve the hothead

Ebay is really starting to SUCK!

Long ranting...

Well lets see where do I start? at the last three auctions I've won,
I just won two electric guitars within two days, this was a month ago, both vintage Kramer guitars from two different Ebayers.

On one auction the person selling states the guitar is in good condition and just needs to be setup. Yeah Right, BS...

I get the guitar and the body is cracked in two places with about a million chips and dents and the Floyd Rose trem is chewed up and the neck is warped, but the auction says all sales final and NO returns.

I Got screwed on that one, Then I get another Kramer vintage guitar and get it a a good sale price...So I thought, the seller charges me $45.00 to ship the guitar thru UPS ground and I ask in an email that he please pack this guitar very careful and pack the extras so they don't bounce around in the guitar case. He emails me back once and states everything will be packed up extra well and not to worry.

Well I pay immediately thru paypal and the seller does not ever email me back but ships the guitar thru DHL instead, I get the guitar left out in the wide open at my doorstep while I was home and the DHL driver never rang my doorbell so the guitar sits outside in the heat for who knows how long?

When I open my front door to my suprise there sits a guitar case not boxed but one big tyewrap to keep the case closed. I'm pissed as I open the case and the guitar is all wet from condensation, plus the trem arm and wrench have been bouncing around the case nicking the guitar finish.

The case was scuffed from delivery. I call DHL and they can't tell me shit because there system is slow at updating the cost of shipping.
I then Email the guy that sent the guitar about not boxing it like I asked and he sends back a crappy email saying that sending in just a tolexed guitar case is OK and he is justified the way he sent this. BS...

I wait a week and call DHL back and find the sender shipped the guitar thru his place he works at paying a total of $6.40 to ship and the biz paid for this as he snuck it past their system without them knowing he charged the shipping to them.
I email this guy about this and he says he is still justified in charging me the $45.00 for shipping and states case closed.

Well I got into a pissing email match with him and told him that I will report him to Ebay and to his place he works if he doesn't at least give me a partial shipping refund, well to say the least it takes numerous threats to finally get him to send $19.00 back to me after major threats of turning him in.

He stills sends an email back with total arrogance of his actions.

I won't even go into the third Ebay auction as I ordered some parts from a internet guitar parts biz that's only 10 miles from my home, pay immediately thru PP and get an email that the parts are in stock and they will email me when sent out. and two weeks later, no parts and no response to any of my 6 emails I sent on where the parts are, or if they were even shipped or what!

WTF...Is this a bad month or what???

My rant for the morning.

Steve THH

11/15/2005 2:06 PM
Carl S.	I dunno, Steve. More like a bad couple years. I've been an ebay user since before there were pictures in the listings. Hell, before there were any graphics on the site. Used to be a very friendly place with a casual attitude. Just like an online flea market. I used to get boxes of 12A?7 tubes averaging $1 each. Got a lot of good ones that way. It's evolved into a place where people want items shipped IMMEDIATELY, charge silly amounts for handling, and often creatively represent their goods and then follow up with bad service. There are still plenty of good, honest sellers...just harder to find. One is Gintares Sakenas from Lithuania who sells all sorts of former USSR tubes, capacitors, etc. As most things go, when the folks who are in it just for the money take over things start to smell bad. Happened to several guitar companies I know...

11/15/2005 2:06 PM

Carl S.

I dunno, Steve. More like a bad couple years.

I've been an ebay user since before there were pictures in the listings. Hell, before there were any graphics on the site.

Used to be a very friendly place with a casual attitude. Just like an online flea market. I used to get boxes of 12A?7 tubes averaging $1 each. Got a lot of good ones that way.

It's evolved into a place where people want items shipped IMMEDIATELY, charge silly amounts for handling, and often creatively represent their goods and then follow up with bad service.

There are still plenty of good, honest sellers...just harder to find. One is Gintares Sakenas from Lithuania who sells all sorts of former USSR tubes, capacitors, etc.

As most things go, when the folks who are in it just for the money take over things start to smell bad. Happened to several guitar companies I know...

12/2/2005 12:26 PM
dumbass Bob	I bought 2 1971-73 Sigma guitars on ebay this past month.The first one the lady said the guitar was fine.I get it for $250 plus $29 ship.The neck has pulled away from the body.At least she was honest and returned ALL my money.The second guitar $345.00 och The nice old lady says that it is in perfect shape,that she took it to a repair shop,and I had NO WORRYS.The guitar comes with a neck that had been broken 15 yrs ago, the top was bowed 11/2inch and a 10in.crack down the side.She trys to blame DHL.I ask her how they broke it ,put 2 dowels in the 14 fret,and made a 11/2 bow in 3 days. Now I am in a disputwith this lieing f-king old "power seller"The repair shop I took it to said "that the reason its sold on ebay,is noone that can see it wants it"Like buying tube,most are NOS that some guy has amost used up.And now they recoop most of there money to buy NOS NIB tubes,and you are fighting over his leftovers It may cost more,but its worth it to buy from a good NIB NOS store.

12/2/2005 12:26 PM

dumbass Bob

I bought 2 1971-73 Sigma guitars on ebay this past month.The first one the lady said the guitar was fine.I get it for $250 plus $29 ship.The neck has pulled away from the body.At least she was honest and returned ALL my money.The second guitar $345.00 och The nice old lady says that it is in perfect shape,that she took it to a repair shop,and I had NO WORRYS.The guitar comes with a neck that had been broken 15 yrs ago, the top was bowed 11/2inch and a 10in.crack down the side.She trys to blame DHL.I ask her how they broke it ,put 2 dowels in the 14 fret,and made a 11/2 bow in 3 days. Now I am in a disputwith this lieing f-king old "power seller"The repair shop I took it to said "that the reason its sold on ebay,is noone that can see it wants it"Like buying tube,most are NOS that some guy has amost used up.And now they recoop most of there money to buy NOS NIB tubes,and you are fighting over his leftovers It may cost more,but its worth it to buy from a good NIB NOS store.

11/15/2005 7:20 PM
Mark Lavelle	Did both of these guys have good feedback histories?

11/15/2005 8:57 PM
Steve the Hothead	Mark, Yes they had good feedback and that is what threw me about buying from them. Normally I will not buy from some one with lots of negatives but both these two had low feedback but good feedback. At least the parts person emailed me earlier and said that one part was out of stock but the other part just got mailed out so that's a bit better. seems you really cannot buy a guitar of the internet as its a 50-50 chance of getting a good one or a POS. But I do like used guitars for their MOJO... LOL STHH

11/15/2005 8:57 PM

Steve the Hothead

Mark,
Yes they had good feedback and that is what threw me about buying from them. Normally I will not buy from some one with lots of negatives but both these
two had low feedback but good feedback.

At least the parts person emailed me earlier and said that one part was out of stock but the other part just got mailed out so that's a bit better.

seems you really cannot buy a guitar of the internet as its a 50-50 chance of getting a good one or a POS.

But I do like used guitars for their MOJO...

LOL

STHH

11/16/2005 10:54 AM

Mark Lavelle

quote:
"... both these two had low feedback but good feedback."

Aha! - the small sample size problem. I hesitate to buy from anyone with less than 50 feedbacks or less than 98% positive. The only exceptions are when I'm buying stuff for the parts (i.e., donor radios/amps).

As for guitars, I decided years ago that I'd never buy a guitar I hadn't played...

11/17/2005 2:14 PM
Eric H	I haven't seen decent deals on ebay for years. [QUOTE]As for guitars, I decided years ago that I'd never buy a guitar I hadn't played... [/QUOTE]I completely agree.

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