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4/28/2004 3:22 AM
Frank DeSalvo
Iraq War Perspective
People say that we shouldn't be in Iraq because of 9/11 since Al-Quaeda and Sadaam haven't been proven to be linked. Well, I don't hear anyone complaining about the time we attacked Germany in the 40's when the Japanese were responsible for directly attacking the US.  
 
Anyone see a parallel here?  
 
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4/28/2004 5:23 AM
Mark Lavelle

[QUOTE]People say that we shouldn't be in Iraq because of 9/11 since Al-Quaeda and Sadaam haven't been proven to be linked. Well, I don't hear anyone complaining about the time we attacked Germany in the 40's when the Japanese were responsible for directly attacking the US.  
 
Anyone see a parallel here?[/QUOTE]Ummm ... no.  
 
1. There was absolutely no doubt that Japan and Germany were allies.  
 
2. To say we "attacked" Germany is rather twisted. We came to the aid of our allies, who had already been attacked (and in the case of France and several other countries, occupied) by Germany.
 
4/28/2004 10:04 AM
Dave H

No, itís as Mark said. Bush had decided to go after Saddam before 9/11. He was looking for anything he could find to justify a second Iraq war. 9/11, WMD, it didnít matter that there wasnít a link. He needed one to sell his war so he fabricated one. Donít vote for a liar.  
 
Dave
 
4/28/2004 12:09 PM
Dave Rich
"Bush had decided to go after Saddam before 9/11."  
 
Actually it wasn't just Bush, it was Clinton and the US congress as well. Here is an exerpt from the Iraq Liberation Act signed into law by Bill Clinton on October 31, 1998.  
 
"An Act  
 
To establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq.  
 
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,  
 
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.  
 
This Act may be cited as the `Iraq Liberation Act of 1998'.  
 
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.  
 
The Congress makes the following findings:  
 
(1) On September 22, 1980, Iraq invaded Iran, starting an 8 year war in which Iraq employed chemical weapons against Iranian troops and ballistic missiles against Iranian cities.  
 
(2) In February 1988, Iraq forcibly relocated Kurdish civilians from their home villages in the Anfal campaign, killing an estimated 50,000 to 180,000 Kurds.  
 
(3) On March 16, 1988, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurdish civilian opponents in the town of Halabja, killing an estimated 5,000 Kurds and causing numerous birth defects that affect the town today.  
 
(4) On August 2, 1990, Iraq invaded and began a 7 month occupation of Kuwait, killing and committing numerous abuses against Kuwaiti civilians, and setting Kuwait's oil wells ablaze upon retreat.  
 
(5) Hostilities in Operation Desert Storm ended on February 28, 1991, and Iraq subsequently accepted the ceasefire conditions specified in United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (April 3, 1991) requiring Iraq, among other things, to disclose fully and permit the dismantlement of its weapons of mass destruction programs and submit to long-term monitoring and verification of such dismantlement.  
 
(6) In April 1993, Iraq orchestrated a failed plot to assassinate former President George Bush during his April 14-16, 1993, visit to Kuwait.  
 
(7) In October 1994, Iraq moved 80,000 troops to areas near the border with Kuwait, posing an imminent threat of a renewed invasion of or attack against Kuwait.  
 
(8) On August 31, 1996, Iraq suppressed many of its opponents by helping one Kurdish faction capture Irbil, the seat of the Kurdish regional government.  
 
(9) Since March 1996, Iraq has systematically sought to deny weapons inspectors from the United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) access to key facilities and documents, has on several occasions endangered the safe operation of UNSCOM helicopters transporting UNSCOM personnel in Iraq, and has persisted in a pattern of deception and concealment regarding the history of its weapons of mass destruction programs.  
 
(10) On August 5, 1998, Iraq ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM, and subsequently threatened to end long-term monitoring activities by the International Atomic Energy Agency and UNSCOM.  
 
(11) On August 14, 1998, President Clinton signed Public Law 105-235, which declared that `the Government of Iraq is in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations.'.  
 
(12) On May 1, 1998, President Clinton signed Public Law 105-174, which made $5,000,000 available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition for such activities as organization, training, communication and dissemination of information, developing and implementing agreements among opposition groups, compiling information to support the indictment of Iraqi officials for war crimes, and for related purposes.  
 
SEC. 3. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS REGARDING UNITED STATES POLICY TOWARD IRAQ.  
 
It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
 
4/28/2004 1:28 PM
EARL

Somehow I don't think we will see Bush give credit to Clinton for the decision to invade Iraq.
 
4/28/2004 3:00 PM
Frank DeSalvo

Hey, I wasn't trying to stir up another pot here, I just had a thought and wanted to here what you guys thought. :D  
 
~F
 
4/28/2004 5:55 PM
John Fisher

quote:
"Hey, I wasn't trying to stir up another pot here, I just had a thought and wanted to here what you guys thought. :D"
 
 
Hey Frank,  
This topic is hotter then an evolution debate. :D  
 
John Fisher
 

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