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5/5/2003 8:35 PM

The ugly city

Wake up in the morning and have a look at to the city from the balcony. All you see is ugly apartments. Drive to the workplace, and all you see during the road is terrible traffic and again ugly apartments along the way. I'm talking about an extremely crowded city of Turkey, Istanbul, whose polulation, a single city alone, is larger than some European countries. I cant find a well paid job in other cities so at least for some time I have to live here, which makes me sick. What do you think? Do you have similar problems in your country? I had heard apartments are very uncommon in US and Canada, at least not for living but for business only. Comments?

Thanks!

Kursad

5/5/2003 9:15 PM
Matt in TX	Apartments are more common in the larger cities. In the smaller cities, you'll see more houses. What type of work do you do? You might have trouble getting a work permit here these days. I don't know

5/5/2003 9:27 PM

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"What type of work do you do? "

Software engineering. (C++/Java programming). The only place in Turkey that you can do that job and earn some money is Istanbul. (Well, I guess I can find a job in Ankara(the capital of Turkey), but will get half the salary and it isn't a very different place actually, as long as uglyness of the city is concerned.) Lots of people I know really love Istanbul for some reason (night life and stuff like that I suppose), but I couldn't yet managed to understand them. All I see is ugly buildings which will be destroyed by the next earthquake, which is expected within 10-30 years. A smell of a bloody day in the future at every poorly built building I look at. Am I paranoid?

Kursad

5/5/2003 9:33 PM
John Fisher	I live in Mexico city which is supposed to have about 25 millon people (the bigist city in the world).I think all of Canada has about 30 million. Fortunately I live on the outskirts a bit but all the houses are built on stilts on the sides of hills. Earthquakes? Yes! John Fisher

5/5/2003 9:44 PM

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"I live in Mexico city which is supposed to have about 25 millon people (the bigist city in the world).I think all of Canada has about 30 million."

Almost no apartments in Canada, then. A friend of mine has moved to Canada just for that reason.

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"Fortunately I live on the outskirts a bit but all the houses are built on stilts on the sides of hills. Earthquakes? Yes!"

As far as I know hills provide some protection against earthquakes by making the land a bit more stiff. But an ugly city is an ugly city even though it might be safe.

Kursad

5/6/2003 1:33 AM

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"Almost no apartments in Canada"

This is definitely *not* the case in Vancouver, B.C. (west coast of Canada). I lived there for 10 years and always rented.

I now live in Texas and own my own house. Making a house payment is slightly more expensive than renting, but at least I am getting to keep the roof over my head that I am paying for. The big barrier to home ownership in the U.S. is coming up with a significant downpayment.

Vancouver is a *very* beautiful city, but also extremely expensive. Dallas and Ft. Worth are not as pretty but much less expensive.

Mark

5/6/2003 1:55 AM

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"This is definitely *not* the case in Vancouver, B.C. (west coast of Canada)."

I lived in an apartment when I was in Canada (the east coast) Athough there is a small population in Canada compared to the large land mass. People like in all countries will always be bunched up in crowded cities. They live in their apartment and then go out to the wilderness on the weekend to go hunting and fishing.

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