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Re: Geraldo - WTF? + "Other" News

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4/2/2003 6:26 PM

Re: Geraldo - WTF? + "Other" News

On 4/2/2003 4:36 PM, bob predaina said:

[QUOTE]hen, when he's asked by the Pentagon to leave Iraq, he tells them no, that he's marching on to Baghdad.
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Is this guy just stupid, or is he guilty of an act of treason and worthy of a firing squad??[/QUOTE]

I would think the Pentagon doesn't have have the authority to tell anyone to stay in or leave Iraq, which so far is still a sovereign country. Even after the war is over, the US said it has no intentions of ruling Iraq, so they couldn't possibly go ordering people around there... I suppose. The Pentagon may not want Geraldo hanging around the troops anymore, it may refuse to feed him and protect him, but that's perhaps about all the Pentagon can do.

Geraldo Rivera is a civilian. As such, he should never (well, never say never in this day and age anymore) be eligible to be sentenced to a face-to-face meeting with a firing squad. As a civilian, however, he could be deprived of his US citizenship and tried in federal court for treason. If this administration brought charges against him for that, I think we would definitely become the comedic kings of this century.

In the end, Geraldo has rights, he's a lawyer, he's rich and famous, and to top it off, he's a double minority... I believe the likelihood of your IQ improving as a result of watching Fox News is higher than the likelihood of anything serious happening to Geraldo as a result of what did.

Speaking of relevant issues, and nothing personal against Geraldo but I think he doesn't qualify, have you guys read a couple of articles from the British press, about the "hairline cracks" developing on the coalition? Interesting reads galore:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/

Gil

4/2/2003 6:58 PM

Re: Geraldo - WTF? + "Other" News

Perhaps it can be alleged that Geraldo is guilty of violating the patriot act, depending on what he allegedly did. It was alleged that he gave out info that was to be kept secret. I'm not an expert in the law but I would think that maybe US citizens cannot give military secrets out directly or indirectly to an enemy of the US that is on some government terrorist list without violating the law.

LFO

4/2/2003 7:04 PM

On 4/2/2003 6:58 PM, LFOscalator said:

[QUOTE]Perhaps it can be alleged that Geraldo is guilty of violating the patriot act, depending on what he allegedly did. It was alleged that he gave out info that was to be kept secret. I'm not an expert in the law but I would think that maybe US citizens cannot give military secrets out directly or indirectly to an enemy of the US that is on some government terrorist list without violating the law.

LFO
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It would be interesting to know what Geraldo, as well as other reporters, had to sign before the Pentagon allowed them to be "embeded" with the troops. Anyone that has held a security clearence knows that one signs a contract with the US Government, which is very explicit about the Espionage Act, etc. Who knows, perhaps these reporters went through background investigations and were granted clearences before they marched with the armed forces? I wonder about that, and I doubt it.

At any rate, the firing squad is not an option for a civilizian in the 21st century in the US...

Gil

4/2/2003 7:23 PM

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"At any rate, the firing squad is not an option for a civilizian in the 21st century in the US..."

A boy can dream, can't he?

4/2/2003 7:34 PM

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"It would be interesting to know what Geraldo, as well as other reporters, had to sign before the Pentagon allowed them to be "embeded" with the troops."

I'm 98% sure he's not "embedded" and that's part of the Pentagon's problem. If he had signed a contract (and I'm pretty sure all embedded reporters did) you can bet he'd be outta there, minimum. The reports I've read said only that he was "asked" to leave (and that info apparently came from Central Command personnel)...

4/2/2003 9:16 PM

On 4/2/2003 7:34 PM, Mark Lavelle said:

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"I'm 98% sure he's not "embedded""

That makes perfect sense, Mark, and it would definitely explain the Pentagon's nightmare...
Then, if he was not imbedded, why would the soldiers hanging out with him even acknowledge him? Weird situation.

Gil

4/2/2003 10:41 PM

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"In the end, Geraldo has rights, he's a lawyer, he's rich and famous, and to top it off, he's a double minority"

Well, I guess Geraldo being a lawyer explains some of it.

Gil, you made some good points, but I don't think that Geraldo being a double minority has anything to do with anything, so its hardly worth mentioning. (We'll see what the Supreme Court has to say about that pretty soon, I guess.) The only thing that I see as relevant to Geraldo as far as doubling is concerned is a double dose of stupidity.

quote:
"... I believe the likelihood of your IQ improving as a result of watching Fox News is higher than the likelihood of anything serious happening to Geraldo as a result of what did. "

the likelihood of Fox reporting improving anybody's IQ is immeasurably minute. Again, something hardly worth mentioning. Unfortunately, I agree that it is probably an extremely remote possibility that anything 'official' will happen do him.

quote:
"At any rate, the firing squad is not an option for a civilizian in the 21st century in the US..."

Well, like someone said, we can always dream. and the fact that Geraldo isn't in the US doesn't do much to protect him. Evidently, no significant injuries seem to have resulted from his stupidity, as he hasn't drawn a frag (yet) or wandered into a friendly fire accident (yet).

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