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|8/19/2003 1:38 AM|
|Major Pain||The best sounding digital recording desktop processor?|
Well I see the Johnson J-Station on sale at MF for $99.00 but at GC they have the Behringer V-amp for $139.00 and of course there is the all famous POD for around $250.00.
But which is really the best sounding?
Im looking for one to have to keep from getting the wife pissed off with volume
Any one out there use any of these?
|8/19/2003 4:10 PM|
I have the J-station, bought it because I didn't think I'd be using an amp when I moved into my new place last year, but old habits die hard.
I got mine for $100 on sale, its good bang for the buck, especially if you like to tweak, use effects (it allows one effect at a time like chorus, flange, etc..,plus reverb ,plus delay), and it's very intuitive.
Sounds? They're ok, but don't expect it to compare to the real deal. I did some recording with it and then used my homebrew for reference. The real tube amp sounds way better, no surprise, more three dimensional and percussive.
I think these modeling boxes all suffer from that lack of dimension when going to tape. I've also tried it through the fx loop on my amp, as a preamp, and again, sounds ok but it ain't real.
The J-station's best sound, in my opinion, is the marshall plexi. There's also an ultra high gain sound that approximates the satriani thing pretty well, if you're into that, but that's a fairly processed sound anyway.
The recto sound is big and dumb, some of the vintage sounds ain't bad.
The clean fender type sounds are lackluster, the acoustic sounds are a joke.
Hope this helps.
|8/20/2003 2:57 PM|
A guy i know just released his CD,and done on the J-Station..heres a link to hear a few song parts that were recorded with the J-station..
Click on music, and should pop up the clips..and CD listing
|8/22/2003 3:17 PM|
My good friend and coworker just ordered a POD, J-Station and Behringer V-Amp; he ordered all three with the idea to return the ones he didn't like. He has asked me to critique them and give him an opinion. I am fairly new to these boxes, only having used a DigiTech Genesis for a bit.
The POD and V-Amp sound very similar. The POD is harder to use, but is very well built with a steel casing. The V-Amp is easier to use, and has LED's around the control knobs to indicate settings of the pots. Also the V-Amp comes with a carrying case and footswitch, and has a stereo line input (to plug in a CD player for practicing. The POD or J-Station doesn't have a line input. The only down side of the V-Amp is that the headphone output isn't very loud.
So I would lean towards a V-Amp for the above reasons, although I haven't had a chance to try the J-Station yet.
|8/23/2003 2:07 AM|
I have been using a J station for over a year I do like it! We use it to record in a small studio
the sounds I use are melower tweed and blackface (once in a while I use the british stack setting) Other people in the group use it to play bass through as well as guitar.
I ran across a deal on a V amp thinking it would be the same.and I could use it @ home for noodling around. it's not the same at all. It does have apeal to my buddy that plays agressive rock so i traded it to him for a Marshall ss practice amp with DSP.
the moral to the story?
everyone has an opinion
getting them all and sending back the ones that don't apeal to ya is good thinking!
|8/24/2003 7:32 AM|
I got a Yamaha DG-Stomp boxes in 2001, mainly because it wasn't like a POD. Rather than have a few dozen amp models you get 8 basic ones that you can fine-tune as desired. Yamaha has been building FX processors for many years so the effects are pretty good.
GC was selling these off for around $159 last year so you should be able to find one on ebay for considerably less than that.
I like the idea of trying them all out and returning the ones you don't want unless you get stuck with paying shipping or restock charges.
--Let us know which one you keep!
|8/24/2003 8:15 PM|
If you're going to spend $250 on a POD, think about the Tech 21 Trademark 10. You can pick one of them up for the same price. I got one about a month or so ago and it's fantastic. It's got a headphone out, so you can jam in silence and it responds really well to pedals and effects. I usually run a BBE Sonic Maximizer and Boss DD-3 in the effects loop and sometimes a Fuzz Face or Boss SD-1 out front. You can get lots of great distortion tones and even with the Drive maxxed, the Fender clean channel stays clean with single coils. I've heard POD's used a pre-amps in front of power amps and they sounded good, but if you have some decent effects laying around and you just need a good amp to record with, I would recommend the Trademark 10. Plus, it's got an external speaker jack to drive different cabs and an XLR direct out for recording. As far as the tones, I think they're fantastic. I've been playing more in the weeks since I got it than I have in the last 6 months. I don't work for them or anything, either. I'm just stoked on getting a great piece of gear.
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