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Marshall JCM800 model 2210 Distortion source?


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8/6/2000 7:09 AM
Glen H.
Marshall JCM800 model 2210 Distortion source?
I am currently trying out a Marshall 2210 100W channel-switching head.  
It is very powerful, but more buzzy & industrial sounding than my 2204 50W master vol. head. It sounds like diodes clipping. Maybe someone can help me here. Are diodes used for distortion in this series of amp?  
I can buy this head for about $450 US ( a good price) and it is in remarkable condition, but the distortion just seems "off" from my other Marshall.  
 
My 2204's sound is more natural - like a tube amp should be, it sings in comparison.  
 
Regards,  
Glen
 
8/6/2000 2:20 PM
Trace

quote:
"Are diodes used for distortion in this series of amp?"
 
 
This is the big brother to the 2205 (50 watter) and the 2210 is a 100 watter which is pretty powerful. These amps were sort of like the spring board in many ways for the JCM900's (in my opinion) and they do use diode clipping.  
 
Some guys really like these 800's a lot. I went to see Gvn't Mule (Warren Hane's band) and Savoy Brown opened up for them and Kim Simmons used a 2210 with an ES335. (cool show by the way! ha, ha)  
 
quote:
"I can buy this head for about $450 US ( a good price) and it is in remarkable condition, but the distortion just seems "off" from my other Marshall."
 
 
I can see why you describe the distortion as being "off" from the 2204. The circuits are different so it's not going to sound the same. It's not a bad price really. Most 800's (2204's 2205's) go for about $500 on the average and the 100 watters (2203's 2210's) go for about $550 to $600 so so $450 is a pretty cool price.  
 
You can compare the schematics to see what the differences are and see if it's worth it to you to buy the amp. If you have the Marshall book (Mike Doyle) the 2210 is on page #223.  
 
quote:
"My 2204's sound is more natural - like a tube amp should be, it sings in comparison."
 
 
I agree with you, it's a different circuit and the 2204 doesn't use diode clipping. You most likely may not want to hear the diode clipping circuit. I prefer the 2204/2203 over the 2205/2210 as well.  
 
Trace
 
8/6/2000 5:08 PM
Glen H.

Thanks for the info Trace!:)  
 
Regards,  
Glen
 
8/7/2000 7:46 PM
Trace

quote:
"Thanks for the info Trace!"
 
 
It's not a problem at all my friend :) Glad I could be of help.  
 
Trace
 
8/8/2000 3:01 PM
Ethan

I have one of these and they definitely sound different than standard MV marshall's. It's cool that they have some reverb and probably have more gain than the other 800's. Trying different power tubes/preamp tubes can make a lot of difference, I use Siemens EL34's-  
 
Ethan
 

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