Marshall JCM 2000 Triple Super Lead, should I??

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6/17/2000 9:31 PM

Tobias Karlsson

Marshall JCM 2000 Triple Super Lead, should I?? Hi,     I’m offered to trade my “Orange Overdrive 80w (two EL34’s) for a "Marshall JCM 2000 Triple Super Lead" (no money between us). I never liked the "Orange" anyway.     I’ve owned an old JCM a little time and didn’t like it. I’m kind of hooked on my early Super Leads and so far none master volume Marshalls are that kind of Marshall that I like.     Anyway, the triple is only two month old. I’ve never tried one of those but I guess (of course) that it has a master volume.     So, what I want is some opinions from you guys.     Is it a good amp?   What’s the thing it does best?   Is it versatile?   Anyone out there that prefer the Triple as their first choice amp?     I know that “tone” is highly a subjective thing but still it’s very interesting hearing other peoples opinions!     Best Regards     Tobias Karlsson

 

6/17/2000 9:50 PM
Peter S	Strictly my opinion:   There is no substitute for an all tube a non-master volume amp. I hope you make a good choice.....personally, I'd keep the Orange and see if I could trade it for a Super Lead....but that's just me.     Peter s

 

6/18/2000 9:32 AM
Carlos	Keep the Orange and save money for a Triple, if you must have one!   The triple, as any new Marshall (post JCM800) is crap!     Purely subjective. of course!     Carlos

 

6/18/2000 1:59 PM
Trace	I would have to agree with Peter and Carlos. They both make good points. You could also tweak the Orange a little bit if you wanted it to be more like what you want to hear, that is if laying out money is not an option regarding buying an additional amp.     Just a thought!     Trace

 

6/18/2000 5:39 PM

Gord

Hi,     Master volume Marshalls are crappy. How similar is the Orange amp circuit to a Plexi? Close enough to modify it to Plexi specs? I don't know.   I have a couple of old Traynor amps, and one has been modified to a Plexi circuit. In blindfolded tests with a '65 Marshall and my Traynor side-by side, I couldn't tell the two apart.   Plexis aren't magic because of the Marshall nameplate on them. It is the circuit they use (the '59 Fender Bassman circuit) that sounds great.     Gord

 

6/18/2000 6:02 PM
Carlos	My plexi clone used to be a Dutch-made London City 1987 copy, the irons are ok, so I fixed it to plexi specs.   I bought a spare Marshall nameplate in London, though     Carlos

 

6/20/2000 1:31 AM

Peter S

Gord,   Traynors are great amps and it doesnt take much modding to make them into a Plexi-clone. The Orange has a completely different cicuit from the Marshall/Bassman circuit, but it is a very cool one in in it's own right and could be tweaked very easily. I think the dissatisfaction with the Orange probably mostly comes from the fact that it's a master volume amp. Master volume amps rely on preamp distortion alone and therefore do not have the dynamic range and complex tone of a non-master amp. The beauty of a well designed non-master amp is the the fact that the distortion comes from each successive stage overloading the next and the tone of the amp is the sum-total of all of the stages distorting just a little and the power tubes being pushed into distortion. This results in amp amp that is very dynamic and has a much more complex clean tone, and a fuller richer distortion sound. If you play with only one dynamic level, and dont use pick attack to vary the distortion level and tone then a master amp may work well. If you use dynamics and control your tone and distortion with your pick attack then most master volume amps just won't cut it.     PS

 

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