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DR Blows Reverb Driver Tubes


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12/7/1999 11:17 PM
jc
DR Blows Reverb Driver Tubes
I just bought an SFDR. I replaced the filter caps.  
Clipped the tonesuck caps. Installed NOS tubes and  
rebiased. The thing is it keeps blowing reverb driver  
tubes. I've gone through about 3. They get real microphonic  
first and then they stop working. Any ideas?  
 
Thanks,  
JC
 
12/8/1999 12:48 AM
Andrew

Is it a pull boost model?  
 
The cathode resistor on the reverb driver is possibly a low value, and that's very hard on the driver tube. Check it. If you find a 470, 680 or 1k resistor there, up it to at least a 1.5k (1W). The black face falue is 2200 ohms(1/2W).  
 
I'd seriously think about disconnecting the pull boost (if ya have it) and maybe doing the full blackface mods.  
 
Other than that, I've heard that the Philips JAN 12AT7 will survive in that position for a while with the low 'stock' SF values.  
 
(information here courtesy of Willie Whittaker)  
 
HTH! - Andrew
 
12/8/1999 12:52 AM
Andrew

I should have also suggested that you check the cathode bypass capacitor! It may be shorted. Suggest 25µF/50V to replace it, if it's shot.  
 
12/8/1999 1:08 AM
jc

Thanks Andrew. I'll check that tonight. I think  
that it does have a 680 resistor there. I have disconnected  
the pull boost. What else needs to be done to blackface  
this baby?  
 
jc
 
12/8/1999 3:03 AM
Andrew
SF to BF conversion/Deluxe reverb
 
Comparing this:  
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nova/4551/schems/deluxe_reverb_10-6-77_schem.gif  
 
with this:  
http://homepages.tig.com.au/~mcwhirt/andrew/images/dr_ab763_schem.gif  
 
These are the differences (note that I wouldn't advise 'undoing' those marked with a *, either because I dunno what they were for, or it won't make any difference in sound, or it really was an improvement!):  
 
SF BF  
===================================  
Phase splitter input:  
330k 1M  
?can't read? 470  
 
Caps from grid-ground  
1200pF none fitted  
 
Power supply first dropper resistor:  
2.2k/1W 10k/1W  
 
*Bias supply cap  
*80µF/75V 25µF/50V  
 
*Fuse  
*2A sloblo 1A sloblo  
 
*CSA Thermal protector  
*fitted none fitted  
 
Vibrato second stage bypass cap (hard to read on schematic?)  
?5µF/50V? 25µF/25V  
 
*6.3V Filament supply  
*2 x 100 ohms to gnd gnded C/T  
 
Pull boost mixer resistor  
1k none  
(220k connected to gnd)  
 
Pull boost switch  
fitted not fitted  
 
reverb recovery grid bypass(?)  
2000pF none  
 
reverb driver cathode  
680ohm 2.2k  
 
reverb driver cathode bypass cap  
none 25µF/25V  
 
*recifier tube  
*5U4GB GZ34  
(you could try a GZ34, no harm done. Check your B+ voltage first though.)  
 
That's all I can see. Hope it helps ya - Andrew  
 
12/8/1999 5:20 PM
Gerben

You can also find some general info over here:  
 
http://www.sonic-data.com/~andy/mga/main/bf_vs_sf.htm  
 
Gerben
 
12/8/1999 7:58 AM
Tracy
Re: DR Blows Reverb Driver Tubes
JC  
The tone suck caps ,as you may have read, were added to eleminate oscilation from the lead dress problems. This high frequency oscilation can cause tube ringing, crack the glass, and lower output power. sometimes you can't hear it but you know your having these problems. I had this problem in this same amp. Replace the input lead and the volume control lead with shielded cable and ground only one end. Usually the source end or the one furthest from ac noise. This really helped in my amp. I would go with changing that 680 cathode resistor also. If you have a 5u4b recto don't change to the gz34. The voltage goes up too high on the plates. Also the amp doesn't sound the same with the higher preamp voltages. hope this helps.  
 
Tracy  
 

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