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Trainwreck Schem ?


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11/1/1999 9:03 PM
Mark
Trainwreck Schem ?
Probably a dumb question but here goes. Looking at the Trainwreck schem on Steve A's page I have a ? on the preamp section. It looks to me like the preamp uses 3 halves of 2 or 3 12ax7's. Does it matter which halves you match up, ie.. combine the first two halves in the first preamp tube with the tone stack between the halves or what?? Or does it matter? Or should you just use 1/2 of three different tubes for some reason. I hope this question makes sense. thanks, Mark
 
11/1/1999 9:31 PM
BWilliamson

You can get away with only using 2 tubes for the preamp section. As I remember Speedracer saying the 3rd stage is just there for dirt. Seems to me you could really taylor the response of the amp with that tube. Maybe a nice low gain AU7, or AY7, work into a 5751 or the original AX7 for higher gain.  
 
just was the way I've been leaning lately  
 
bw  
 
 
11/1/1999 9:57 PM
Mark

Would you put the tone stack between halves of the first preamp tube?
 
11/1/1999 10:27 PM
BWilliamson

quote:
"Would you put the tone stack between halves of the first preamp tube?"
 
 
Yes, sorry I omitted that  
 
bw
 
11/2/1999 1:56 AM
Mark

thanks!!
 
11/2/1999 1:13 PM
Mook
Ken would probably say...
try it both ways and see what you like better.  
 
Ken said he doesn't mind the "Expresso" schematic being  
online. He even said it was pretty darn close (BUT,  
remember, since his amps are so different and tweeked,  
no two amps are the same). That particular schem is  
from "Orphan Annie" (again, the schem is close, but no  
cigar), which won the "soundpage" shootout in Aug. 1990  
in one of the guitar mags (I forget which).  
 
He did confirm a couple values:  
 
The .1uF going into the PI is correct; The PI  
uses .1uF throughout.  
 
The treble cap is a 500pF.  
 
 
Ken said he loves and uses Kester 60/40 solder. He  
said the wire plays a very important sonic role (we've  
disscussed this before on AMPAGE, with wildly varing  
opinions), but wouldn't disclose which wire/wires he  
uses.  
 
 
Mook
 
11/5/1999 8:08 AM
Ted Matsumura

q  
{  
Ken said he loves and uses Kester 60/40 solder. He  
said the wire plays a very important sonic role (we've  
disscussed this before on AMPAGE, with wildly varing  
opinions), but wouldn't disclose which wire/wires he  
uses.  
}  
 
wire in question I presume is a conductive type? Maybe metallic in the middle?? ;)  
 

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