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5/12/2000 3:46 AM

SB3 tone control

Hello.

I meant this question for Aron, but anyone's help would be very much appreciated.
I asked a while ago about how to transplant a TS9 tone control into the Shaka Braddah 3.
This is basically what I did:
-pin 1 of op-amp -> 1K res. -> diodes to ground, 1M res. to ground -> minibooster.
At the output of the minibooster, I inserted the TS9 tone circuit, .22uf cap to ground, op-amp and all.
I wired it all up and it worked and sounded fine, but it was REALLY low in volume. I mean, about one-tenth of what it should be. After debugging, I couldn't find what I did wrong, so I went ahead and wired up another one from scratch, and guess what? Same problem.
I don't understand what I did wrong in the design of this thing, but any explanation of this mystery would definitely be a great help.
I can say that the sound coming out of this thing was pretty amazing!
BTW Aron, great Supa Fuzz sound clip! That (IMO) is a legendary sound! Have you tried it live?

5/12/2000 3:48 AM
Gord	How about the 1K feedback resistor in the tone circuit? Would increasing the value of it make this pedal any louder?

5/12/2000 8:10 AM
aron	>At the output of the minibooster, I inserted the TS9 tone circuit, .22uf cap to ground, op-amp and all. That should work. I don't know why it would be low in volume... >BTW Aron, great Supa Fuzz sound clip! That (IMO) is a legendary sound! Have you tried it live? That IS a legendary sound? Really? Wow.... I'm serious. I didn't know.... No, I haven't tried it live...

5/12/2000 9:32 AM

Legendary Sound

I agree, Aron, I think it is a good sounding clip, obviously not what YOU are looking for ;-)

;-)

IMHO it is legendary, but not neccessarily good (by today's standards). If you go back and listen to some of the sixties music you will hear some of the most terrible sounding tones (IMO) you can imagine on some legendary albums! My wife and I rented the original "Odd Couple" movie a few weeks ago, produced sometime in the sixties. Near the end of the movie the soundtrack features an electric guitar through fuzztone playing the Odd Couple Theme in the background...some of the worst tone I've ever heard from a guitar...it did feature legendary tone though :-)

:-)

5/12/2000 5:43 PM
aron	Hah! One of the best explanations of legendary sound! A funny sound is Tommy Tedesco playing the melody to Green Acres through his Maestro Fuzz Tone! Brings back memories!

5/12/2000 6:09 PM

You guys sure are right but it makes me think about why sometimes those oddball fuzz tones can be so memorable. Perhaps the limited nature or one dimensionality is a positive when coupled with a great hook. As a recording and gigging bass player of 15 years i have really come to enjoy certain recorded sounds that would be lousy live and no fun to even practice solo with but WORK for some damn reason on a recording. I mean dry ratty direct sounds, tinny ss sounds, overdone compression etc...
I think this concept can apply to guitar as well - sometimes the bad sounds can fill a role that a great sound won't....plus this allows a rationale in which one can build all the effects, not just the "good" ones!
If i didn't have access to great sounding amps i might not feel this way tho'.... ;^)
- A

5/12/2000 6:25 PM
aron	I was playing the pedal last night and actually got a half-decent sound out of it. I was trying to play some hendrix-type licks and it actually didn't sound half-bad. I guess it gives you a certain vibe that the other pedals can't. I want to crank it up and see how it sounds.

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