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Re: Best micing position

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4/14/1999 2:48 PM
Trace	Re: Best micing position Warren; I believe you nailed that drummer down as they say! (ha, ha) What about some good condensors just behind the drummers head that are placed according to where his ears are at? KM64's would be great since they are small or some other tiny mike that really rocks. Earthworks mics are pretty darn good to. Have you tried them??? Trace

4/15/1999 2:55 AM

Haven't tried the earthworks mics, but I hear that they are really good, especially considering the price.

Did something this weekend that is totally unorthodox, and had great results. I used two different mics for drum overheads. I had to do a quick session and wasn't able to borrow or rent my usual set-up so I went with what I had: An AT4050, a Geffel, an ATM-25 and a SM-57. Put the 4050 on the hi-hat side, geffel on the ride side, the ATM-25 on the beater side of the kick, and the 57 on the front head. (which the drummer wanted to leave on.) Came out great. The drummer said that his kick never sounded better and the toms and snare sounded full with just the right amount of attack.

I have this theory that using different mics for overheads is a good thing. I mean, the drum set is not at all symetrical: the crisp HH and hi toms are on one side, and the fuller ride and lo toms are on the other. I figure why not use mics that capture each side best. (BTW, I put them in ORTF position).

Anybody else tried mismatched OH's? Maybe using a bright condenser and a dark dynamic would sound strange, but using simaler types of mics with slightly different frequency responses seems to be a neat trick.

Warren

4/15/1999 2:32 PM
Trace	Warren; I've done that alot actually. Many people prefer the matched pair of mics but as you said it can be a pretty thing to do. The 57, ... did it give it some body and help to pick up the kick drum? Trace

4/15/1999 3:11 PM

Trace,

I picked the 57 because it was all I had left. I tried a 414 first but it didn't sound quite right. The song in question was a slightly psycadelic rendering of an obscure Byrds tune, so we were going for a slightly old school sound. Since I had a mic on the beater, I was just intrested in picking up some low end to fill the sound out. Had to reach for a healthy dose of boost in the lows, but it came out pretty good. Recording kick drum with the front head on is always an intresting challenge: How to get enough attack and punch, but keep that cool tubby-ness and resonance.

Whatever gets you through the night...

Warren

4/27/1999 5:54 PM

I'll try to add a little more for the less experienced ( not Trace or Warrren)...If you are doing homebrew recording...for example you are probably the guitarist and own the recording stuff...and it's your garage etc....have a good drummer show you how to tune a kit!!and two heads are better than one...

two overhead condensors (high as you can get them..will give a good spread attack and depth with liitle or no EQ ..If you have to tone down a loud cymbal do IT..another large diaphram condensor aimed at mid kit three to six feet away will give plenty of oomph..provided the kit is tuned well..so far three inputs and good punch and spread..if you gotta have more.. dynamics on kick and snare..5 inputs...compress gently and listen t stereo playback( you do always have a good stereo casstte deck fed from mains don't you?) that's enough just my cent's worth...good drums make the hobrew recording so much better!!

5/4/1999 10:39 AM
Trace	Pinout; Good drums make every recording better!!! You nail it on the money Trace

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