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Re: Recording "clean" with sustain

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4/8/1999 7:04 PM

Re: Recording "clean" with sustain

I've been wanting to do this same thing, but for a different reason: to be part of a reactive load device. I want to use polyplanar speakers (or sim) to shake the amp chassis as well as the guitar body to simulate the soundfield you lose when you play quietly (or in the control room..) I'm pretty sure that either one of those flat poly speakers would work..just haven't had the time to play with it. If you had a gain control for each, and maybe a HPF & LPF to set the "soundfield freq band" you could get some killer effects, and perhaps capture much of the feel and vibe of playing loud.
Anyone else been doing this sort of stuff or solving this a different way?

4/9/1999 2:52 PM

I've never seen a ployplanar speaker, at least not that I'm aware of. What are these used for? How much power do you think would be necassary to shake the stuff? It would be great to be able to use the headphone amp. Just bring the guitar out the cue send and then through an EQ. You could then use your balance control to adjust between guitar and cab gain...

Hmm, this could work. just need to fool with methods of attaching everything in ways that won't damage the finish or be so cumbersome as to hamper the guitar player.

I was discussing this last night with a friend and he suggested and orbital sander, (without the sandpaper fo course). You would just have to figure out how to control the speed to make it proportional to voltage.

Warren

4/14/1999 2:43 PM

Warren & Speedracer;

You two guys talking will turn the world on it's head!! (ha, ha) The ideas will be revolutionary to say the least.
OK...here's the trick...the speaker makes the guitar sustain because of vibration...BUT let's not forget feedback.
Certain frequencies promote more sustain that others and the sound of the tone when it's on the edge of feedback is god like!!
I've gotten the same "sustain" effect buy standing in front of moniters that were turned up a bit but feedback that reacts the same is another story.
What if you wired a smaller sized mono speaker with a seperate volume and placed it on a stand? You could stand right in front of it for extra sustain and the speaker doesn't nee dto be very big at all.
You know how a talkbox sends the sound through a tube...what about sending the sound (vibrations) through a tube (or something) with some sort of resonant "plate" at the end that could attach to the body (of course without messing up the finish.)
You need something to really vibrate the body to at least get close to the same effect. As I said bass frequencies change with different chords and it does effect the sound. Certain notes are more prone to feedback than others.
Just a thought I guess.

Trace

6/30/1999 10:01 AM
CBS	Do you think the piezo "acoustic" pickups (Fishman/Mike Christian) for solid body guitars could be fed the signal to shake yer strings, like a piezo tweeter driver? It would be a high mechanical impedance the piezo's like. CBS

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