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Re: Make that fender sound warm

11/9/2005 5:32 PM
Peter	Re: Make that fender sound warm Hi Chuck I suspected there were no real improvements gained by freezing a tube.I presume that carbon steels improve at a molecular level although I am puzzled how they can retain their integrity after returning to real world temperatures. I guess structual engineers could point me to a mass of studies and papers on the subject. Back to valves.. I would have thought that if there was anything to gain from cryo-technology in manufacture,the few remaining factories would have implemented the process even if to only create an upmarket production line for the audiophiles with obsessive compulsive disorder or small dicks. I know a guy who swears by "special" power cables in fact I often have to avoid him at the butchers and circle the block a few times as its impossible to have a logical conversation with him. Here in Australia we had a car sold with a "special crystal" in the engine instigated by a racing car driver (his name associated with the car). It wasn't a success and later we found out he had various problems (like giving up alcohol)and stumbled on this idea after absorbing ideas from well meaning Dr's/Gurus. Needless to say Aussies can be a sceptical bunch and like a beer or two..... I digress ....so I presume there is some merit in cryo treated guitar strings although when I tried them my sweat still stuck to them and the beer spilt on them by well meaning fans requesting old Stones songs didn't magically evaporate... I could not really tell the difference even after cleaning them with isopropyl alcohol! Better do some work. Just got a nice old fender twin with the original valves in it... look like RCA's (smallish)but have fender stamped on them.It was bought in 71 ... they dont make them like they used to.... Unfortunatly one is putting on a fireworks display so I'm going to put in a quad set of Svelantas seem to have better structual integrity than others. (maybee the cold weather in St Petersburg helps... no thats a joke...)and I guess I'll have to mess with the bias as usually the existing setup is not suitable for the "new type valves" Thanks for the sensible answer tho chuck.. Peter

11/9/2005 5:32 PM

Peter

Re: Make that fender sound warm

Hi Chuck
I suspected there were no real improvements gained by freezing a tube.I presume that carbon steels
improve at a molecular level although I am puzzled
how they can retain their integrity after returning
to real world temperatures.
I guess structual engineers could point me to a mass
of studies and papers on the subject.
Back to valves.. I would have thought that if there was anything to gain from cryo-technology in manufacture,the few remaining factories would have
implemented the process even if to only create an
upmarket production line for the audiophiles with
obsessive compulsive disorder or small dicks.
I know a guy who swears by "special" power cables
in fact I often have to avoid him at the butchers
and circle the block a few times as its impossible
to have a logical conversation with him.
Here in Australia we had a car sold with a "special
crystal" in the engine instigated by a racing car driver (his name associated with the car).
It wasn't a success and later we found out he had
various problems (like giving up alcohol)and stumbled on this idea after absorbing ideas from
well meaning Dr's/Gurus.
Needless to say Aussies can be a sceptical bunch
and like a beer or two.....
I digress ....so I presume there is some merit in
cryo treated guitar strings although when I tried them my sweat still stuck to them and the beer
spilt on them by well meaning fans requesting old
Stones songs didn't magically evaporate...
I could not really tell the difference even after cleaning them with isopropyl alcohol!
Better do some work.
Just got a nice old fender twin with the original
valves in it... look like RCA's (smallish)but have
fender stamped on them.It was bought in 71 ...
they dont make them like they used to....
Unfortunatly one is putting on a fireworks display
so I'm going to put in a quad set of Svelantas
seem to have better structual integrity than others.
(maybee the cold weather in St Petersburg helps...
no thats a joke...)and I guess I'll have to mess with the bias as usually the existing setup is not
suitable for the "new type valves"
Thanks for the sensible answer tho chuck..
Peter

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Chuck Actually... Umm... I have rethought... -- 11/10/2005 9:24 PM